Willtell
1:01 Thu Sep 15
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Is that Cameron's legacy though? I think he'll be remembered as a successful PM that won 2 elections, got the country back on its feet but was afraid of UKIP so promised a referendum that was his final undoing.
He then fucked up over Libya and compounded it by lying about the effects of a Brexit. Early success but drifted to fuck-ups but will make loads of money from being on the boards of some big companies...
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Prometheus50
12:25 Thu Sep 15
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Infidel
Indeed the entire Labour leadership campaign not only demonstrates the extent to the left the membership has shifted, but proves the argument that the moderates are facing their very own existential crisis firstly because they had no idea how their voters would vote in the referendum, and secondly, because they now have to decide between the rock and hard place of whether to stay in the Labour Party and face either deselection ahead of or defeat at the next election, or split and merge with the Liberal Democrats
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Darby_
12:16 Thu Sep 15
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I doubt that they want a complete end to immigration, Infi son. Just an end to freedom of movement and a more controlled immigration system that doesn't undercut working class wages.
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Infidel
11:45 Thu Sep 15
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Prom
Owen Smith's policy platform is just as loony and disastrous as Corbyn's.
They are trying to out-Marx each other.
Meanwhile their core vote in the northern cities voted Brexit and wants immigration to end, so good luck winning them back with all this right-on left wing drivel.
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Hammer and Pickle
11:05 Thu Sep 15
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It's mainly psychological, or at least it was, as born out by the privileged terms the UK was always able to negotiate when it actually engaged.
But the Maastricht Treaty and the UK opt out clause are history now, the authority in committees and countless other meetings has been largely squandered and the consensus is now to get the UK awkward squad out of the room as soon as possible. The common language is no longer so closely associated with the country of its origin, or rather it is being actively disassociated with it, and that's a terrible shame for any Brit with continental interests or perspectives.
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Mike Oxsaw
10:38 Thu Sep 15
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Hammer and Pickle 1:31 Wed Sep 14
How, exactly is a group of people using English as a foreign/second/common language an "advantage" (to Cameron and/or the UK) Pickle?
If you have a message to get across, remember to use words of as few syllables as you can when talking down to us common folk.
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Willtell
5:19 Wed Sep 14
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Hammer and Pickle 2:19 Wed Sep 14
"Well excuse me but the irony is lost on me."
Clearly! It went whooooooosh over your head....
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Prometheus50
3:02 Wed Sep 14
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make that 10 moderate Labour MPs now
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Prometheus50
3:01 Wed Sep 14
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Oh dear just how low can the PLP sink in its hypocrisy
5 moderate Labour MPs all took to twitter to lavish praise on Corbyn's performance at PMQ (Quite why I do not know as it wasn't that impressive)
So it would seem they know their man Owen Smith is going to be crucified in the leadership elections and, rather than do the principled thing and split from a party leadership they previously declared they could not work with, they are now trying to cosy up to him
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13 Brentford Rd
2:37 Wed Sep 14
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Was never a promise (how could it have been) and there was no manifesto.
As pointed out it was a fact followed by a suggestion or an alternative to where we could spend the money.
Remainers really are pathetic desperate cunts.
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Hammer and Pickle
2:19 Wed Sep 14
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Well excuse me but the irony is lost on me.
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Willtell
2:17 Wed Sep 14
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FFS H&P! It was an ironic observation you mong!
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Hammer and Pickle
2:16 Wed Sep 14
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Oh so your point was Cameron didn't need to have a positive EU policy because everyone speaks English anyway.
There was I assuming a common assumption there is any point in having a government at all - how silly of me.
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Willtell
2:08 Wed Sep 14
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Hammer and Pickle wrote...
"No Willtell, my point was all about Cameron failing to take advantage of the fact that Junker and the whole EU uses English as a common language. Please stop it - this actually hurts."
Why does me saying this below hurt you H&P?
"How ironic that the EU's 2nd language is English while GB is leaving the EU."
Of course it doesn't does it? You're just being your usual brand of self-centered stupidity dressed up as an intellectual comment. Whhhhooooosh it goes over your head though....
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Hammer and Pickle
1:44 Wed Sep 14
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See - totally pig-shit thick.
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mashed in maryland
1:38 Wed Sep 14
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"Please stop it - this actually hurts."
^ Now he knows how frustrated his wife feels when he's trying to make her climax. Or maybe he's quoting her from the first time Pavel tried sticking it up her arse?
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13 Brentford Rd
1:33 Wed Sep 14
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Was never a promise (how could it have been) and there was no manifesto.
As pointed out it was a fact followed by a suggestion or an alternative to where we could spend the money.
Remainers really are pathetic desperate cunts.
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Hammer and Pickle
1:31 Wed Sep 14
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No Willtell, my point was all about Cameron failing to take advantage of the fact that Junker and the whole EU uses English as a common language.
Please stop it - this actually hurts.
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Willtell
1:26 Wed Sep 14
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Your point was that Junker speaks lots of languages including English. I pointed out that English is the 2nd language of the EU and that it is ironic as we are leaving.
Who said it was a counter-point you silly sod?
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Hammer and Pickle
1:25 Wed Sep 14
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But you are thick mim - I can't help that when I'm addressing the drivel you post.
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mashed in maryland
1:23 Wed Sep 14
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Willtell
This is a typical H&P tactic. He says something, someone responds in a way that puts him on the back foot a bit, and he deflects by making out that they've missed some sort of obvious but profound point cos they're thick. He's done this a lot lately with you. Expect it to carry on for as long as you give it any credit.
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